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Chapter 20 Norfolk

img135.pngimmers may have been in Norfolk from around 1392.288 Looking at a map of progression however, it would seem more likely they spread gradually upwards from Suffolk, having a common heritage with the families we have already discussed.

By 1540 Lymmers moving to Norfolk from Suffolk. Include Rebecca(1507.7) Lymmer who had moved to Trowse Milgate where she met and married Enoch Cleare at Saint Ethedred, Norwich,289 Robert(1556.28) and his sister Elizabeth(1557.28), who may well have been born in Buckinghamshire and moved up as part of the family at the time of monastery Devolution290.

After 1622 AD, three names begin to appear regularly in Norfolk. I call them the William, Samuel and John lines. These may well have a common ancestor in William(1622.U) who was living in Saint Julian, Norwich291.  William Married in 1647, and within a generation we find William the blacksmith, John(1648.U) living in Yarmouth and working as “Clerk to Clerk of Acts Royal Navy Officer” , 292  and Samuel(1650.U) Living in Gorleston and Great Yarmouth.293

Descendant of William(1647.U), William(1696.U) is first found living with his widowed mother in Barningham in 1714. William(1696.U) Married around 1716.

Descendants in the Samuel(1650.U) line bring us to Samuel(1790.U), great grandson of Samuel(1720.U), (who grew up in Gorsleston Norfolk), and his wife Honor. He and Honor moved to Erpinham some time before 1805. Most of the descendants of Samuel(1720.U) live in Gorsleston and Yarmouth - including one in Gorleston in 1865294, Samuel Limmer who owned an omnibus295

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The roads from Gorleston were well used in the eighteen-fifties. Another man who used these roads twice daily was Joe Cockrill. Joe married Bessie Limmer a granddaughter of Samuel(1810.U) and sister of Samuel the omnibus driver. Joe was a carter by trade, who, twice daily made the trip between Gorleston and Great Yarmouth to pick up .. eh...well.. almost anything really. I imagine he was kept busy by the rest of the Limmer family living in Gorleston at the time. John Limmer the bricklayer would need bricks, while Edward Miller Limmer296 would need to shift his ground flour to the bakers of Yarmouth.

The John Line descends from John(1648.U) through John(1721.U), whose line travelled, via the new world, to end up in Bury-Saint-Edmunds.

John Limmer(1721.U) 297 appears to have been apprenticed at the age of 12, in the new shipping industry of Great Yarmouth, where he learned the Blacksmith trade.

His son John(1734.U) married Lucy Clarke in 1765 at Calton parish church, moving to Attleborough. John moved several times in his life but eventually died in 1819 in Old Buckingham. John then breaks the tradition of naming the first born John. Their first son James(1764.61) married Elizabeth Hovell in 1784 at Besthorpe.298

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On the death of James Hovell Limmer in 1874, the Hovel estate at Roudham was split up as three of the surviving children went to South Carolina, United States of America.

John(1734.U) and Lucy's second son John(1766.62) married Mary Barber in 1790, at New Buckenham John is recorded as receiving an annuity which made him an independent man. But he also owned a windmill in Forncett St. Peter.301

 

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The children of John and Mary were:303

1) Elizabeth(1788.63), New Buckenham, dying around 1799.

2) Michael(1791.63), born Banham, and dying 1852 in Wayland. (He was a farm Bailiff. Marrying in 1816, he died in 1852 Lincolnshire).

3) John Barber(1794.63), Banham, Norfolk.

4) George(1800.63), Banham, Norfolk, died 1857, Coltishall, George was a veterinary surgeon. He married, having three children while living in Banham, then he took his family to Newark-on-Trent, Nottingham until 1828, after which he returned to Coltishall. He remained there until he died in 1857.

5) Ann(1803.63), Banham, Norfolk.

6) Lucy(1804.63), Banham, Norfolk.

7) Elizabeth(1805.63), Banham, Norfolk.

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Before we leave Norfolk we must mention Henry(1805.U) Limmer. Henry(1805.U) was actually in Portsmouth until around 1805 but we find him residing in Norfolk in 1826. He was in Ipswich for less than a year before appearing at Norfolk assizes on 17th July 1827. Henry(1805.U) was sentenced to penal servitude for life in Australia.

He was taken from the court room to a hulk ship307 while awaiting his deportation.

Henry, described as aged 31, five-feet-nine-inches tall, Ruddy and fair, was one of 168 convicts transported on the Marquis of Hastings. The ship sailed from Portsmouth on 14 April 1827, stopping a Rio-de-Janeiro, then on to New South Wales308.  When he arrived, he was put under the watchful eye of Michael Henderson and given the job as sawyer309.  He became part of the gang clearing the forest of Newcastle, New South Wales for a new town. Henry was clearly having none of this310.  On 5th September 1838 he absconded. His adventure was short lived and on 17th October he was apprehended and returned311.

A little more apprehensively, he planned his second escape in late 1939 and managed to avoid recapture until he was returned on the 20th May 1840. He must have behaved himself after this - at least for a year – as, on 19th October 1841, he was issued with a ' ticket of leave'312.  He stayed in Newcastle after his pardon where he met Catherine Murphy, who had also been deported from England. They married in Newcastle on November 1844 at Christchurch cathedral313. Catherine was 33 years of age and Henry was 37. One is tempted to say and they lived happily ever after – I do hope so – I have a sneaking admiration for Henry's tenacity.

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