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Chapter 25 Victorian England

img173.pnghomas (Wright) Limmer(1847.77) was only eighteen years old when he married on 26th November 1865 Stepney. As we have seen, while his birth certificate shows his name as Thomas Wright, bastard son of Thomas Wright, his marriage certificates shows him as Thomas Limmer. How he related to his father we can never know. Did he see his father from time to time or was he just born from a casual relationship? That is a question unanswered. Given that Thomas seemed to have kept Wright as a middle name and passed it on to his son suggests there was some sort of relationship. I have no doubt it will occupy the authors mind from time to time and the research will go on, but for the present we must move on or the book will never be finished. That Thomas took his mother's surname and passed it on to his son means the family name Limmer can continue down this line a little further.

When Thomas Wright Limmer(1847.77) married Susannah Isabella Hopper from his mother's house in Parnham street. Lydia, their eldest daughter was already on the way. Thomas, not having his father around, determined to develop a sense of responsibility.356 The couple moved in with mother, Lydia(1817.74) who became a grandmother at the age of forty-nine. Susannah seems to have got on well with her mother-in-law as they all live together over the fish shop for many years.

The fish shop later became a café and the landscape is little changed

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Only three of the six siblings survived. As the eldest daughter, Lydia(1866.78) was only fourteen years of age when her mother died. She would be of an age to go out to work, and so there was nothing for it, but the rest of the family had to be split up. Thomas, being ten at the time and about to sit his final school exams stayed at home.

Lydia became 'Mum', and James went to live with his aunt.

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armistice with allies (1918).

Susan Harriet(1895.79) also married in St Mathias church, born in 1895 Stepney, and being twenty-one when she married William H Newman.365 in 1916.

While newspapers were still reporting Lord Kitchener had drowned when HMS Hampshire hit a mine off Orkney Islands in June 1916, Susan Harriet(1895.79), born 1895 in Limehouse, was marrying William H. Newman at Old Ford, Poplar,

Their fourth daughter Emma(1897.79) born 1897 married in St Mathias church, Stepney366 around 1910.

Fifth daughter Elizabeth Kate(1898.79) started a sad period for Thomas and Nellie, she was the first of the next four children who did not survive. Born and died 1898 in Poplar.

The couples' first son Thomas James(1899.79) was next. He did not survive his first year either, Born 1899 in Poplar, he was later rushed to West Ham hospital where he died.367 Alice Annie(1901.79) survived almost 2 years before she died in 1903.

Finally, Annie Maud(1903.79) did not survive her birth in 1903 Poplar.

The next two children fared a little better. Thomas William(1904.79) born 1904 Poplar. Died twenty years later in 1924 in East Ashford. While Kate Elizabeth(1905.79) born 1905 Poplar, lived twenty-one years, dying 1926 in Poplar.

The 1881 census is also the last census sighting of Thomas(1847.78), he was deceased by 1892 when his son Thomas(1871.78) married, dying a year before his mother Lydia(1817.78) in 1892.

Lydia(1866.78) and Thomas(1871.78) continued to live with their father and Grandmother after their mother's death in 1893.368  Then, having done her duty keeping house for the family for eight years after her mother’s death, Lydia (1866.78) married in 1888 aged twenty-two, in Poplar. Thomas(1847.78) died in the spring of 1892 at a young age of forty-five. He never saw the marriage of his Son Thomas(1871.78) but Grandma Lydia(1866.78) did.

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