Platos Gorgias
SOCRATES: And in the sentence which you have just ut-CALLICLES: It is.
tered, the word thirsty implies pain?
SOCRATES: You said also, that no man could have good CALLICLES: Yes.
and evil fortune at the same time?
SOCRATES: And the word drinking is expressive of plea-CALLICLES: Yes, I did.
sure, and of the satisfaction of the want?
SOCRATES: But you admitted, that when in pain a man CALLICLES: Yes.
might also have pleasure?
SOCRATES: There is pleasure in drinking?
CALLICLES: Clearly.
CALLICLES: Certainly.
SOCRATES: Then pleasure is not the same as good fortune, or pain the same as evil fortune, and therefore the SOCRATES: When you are thirsty?
good is not the same as the pleasant?
SOCRATES: And in pain?
CALLICLES: I wish I knew, Socrates, what your quibbling means.
CALLICLES: Yes.
SOCRATES: You know, Callicles, but you affect not to know.
SOCRATES: Do you see the inference:that pleasure and pain are simultaneous, when you say that being thirsty, you CALLICLES: Well, get on, and dont keep fooling: then drink? For are they not simultaneous, and do they not af-you will know what a wiseacre you are in your admonition fect at the same time the same part, whether of the soul or of me.
the body?which of them is affected cannot be supposed to be of any consequence: Is not this true?
SOCRATES: Does not a man cease from his thirst and from his pleasure in drinking at the same time?